HBM producers Jeff and Bethany are having more and more trouble bearing silence.

On this episode, Jeff calls back crow researcher Kaeli Swift and asks her what it was like to sit in silence with a stranger. And Bethany explains the differences in the anxieties that she and Jeff have towards silence.

Music: The Black Spot

Please note that there are some delicate tones in this podcast. If you're listening in a noisy environment, you might miss them. That's not necessarily a bad thing...just pay attention to the sounds around you.

Season 4 of Here Be Monsters will begin in June.